%0 Journal Article %T Realizing PT-symmetric BEC subsystems in closed hermitian systems %A Robin Gut£¿hrlein %A Jan Schnabel %A Ibrokhim Iskandarov %A Holger Cartarius %A J£¿rg Main %A G¨¹nter Wunner %J Physics %D 2015 %I arXiv %R 10.1088/1751-8113/48/33/335302 %X In open double-well Bose-Einstein condensate systems which balance in- and outfluxes of atoms and which are effectively described by a non-hermitian PT-symmetric Hamiltonian PT-symmetric states have been shown to exist. PT-symmetric states obey parity and time reversal symmetry. We tackle the question of how the in- and outfluxes can be realized and introduce a hermitian system in which two PT-symmetric subsystems are embedded. This system no longer requires an in- and outcoupling to and from the environment. We show that the subsystems still have PT-symmetric states. In addition we examine what degree of detail is necessary to correctly model the PT-symmetric properties and the bifurcation structure of such a system. We examine a four-mode matrix model and a system described by the full Gross-Pitaevskii equation in one dimension. We see that a simple matrix model correctly describes the qualitative properties of the system. For sufficiently isolated wells there is also quantitative agreement with the more advanced system descriptions. We also investigate which properties the wave functions of a system must fulfil to allow for PT-symmetric states. In particular the requirements for the phase difference between different parts of the system are examined. %U http://arxiv.org/abs/1503.01660v3